《大屠杀》作者葛特曼在2012年9月12日美国众议院听证会关于活摘器官的证词

【真相网2014.11.3】葛特曼《大屠杀》披露台湾医生赴大陆违法进行器官买卖一事。早在2012年9月12日在美国众议院外交委员会作证时,葛特曼陈述了一位台湾名医的大陆器官业务,希望美国国会能邀他去作证(详见以下文字档,影音档见下面链接YouTube)。

《纽约邮报》2014年8月9日的报导援引《大屠杀》的内容，详细披露了一惊人的信息：中共长期以来活摘良心犯尤其是法轮功学员的器官用于移植。葛特曼估计，大陆最少有超过100万法轮功学员被监禁，600家医院捲入活摘事件，逾64000名法轮功学员遭到器官活摘。

人尽皆知在美国国会作证必须宣誓所言属实,而且对国会撒谎违反三项法律,刑责合并高达15年!

2012年9月12日美国众议院外交委员会调查听证会Serial No. 112-180)

Mr. Gutmann 葛特曼发言.

Can I just mention something?
可以允许我提一件事吗?

There is a doctor, a surgeon in Taiwan whom I spoke to in a reasonably confidential manner who initially was very standoffish, but then he revealed to me that he had been taking his patients over to the mainland for a long time to receive organs, to get new kidneys and livers and so on, aging patients.
我和台湾一位医生,一位外科医生在相当保密的情况下谈过。他起初非常冷淡,但后来向我透露长久以来他曾将他的多位病人,年迈的病人,带到大陆去接受器官,去获得新的肾脏和肝脏等等。

And he had negotiated for the Chinese price, not to pay the foreigner price, pay the Chinese price.
而且他经过谈判取得了中国人价格,不是付外国人价格,而是付中国人价格。

And so he had gotten to know these doctors very well in the karaoke bars and all the stuff you do when you negotiate in China.
为此他在卡拉OK场合和那些在中国谈生意的各种事上,和这些医生们混得非常熟。

At the end of this negotiation period they said, hey, you know what
谈判到最后那些医生说,猜猜怎么著

We are not only going to give you the Chinese price but you are getting the best of the best. You are getting all Falun Gong organs.
我们不只会给你中国人价格,而且你会获得极品中的极品。你拿到的都会是法轮功的器官。

Now this is a top surgeon in Taiwan. He is an incredibly credible witness.
这可是一位台湾的顶尖外科医生。是一位极有公信力的证人。

If your committee were to call him it is possible that he would testify to this, and I think he could explain a lot about this business.
如果贵委员会邀请他,他可能会出席作证以上所述,我也认为他能深入解释这个生意。

He was basically doing it right up until the Olympics, so we would have some fairly, reasonably current information on this.
他基本上直到奥运前都还在执行这项业务,所以我们会得到一些相当新的信息。

And I think he is quite credible.
而且我认为他非常可信。

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https://www.gpo.gov/fdsys/pkg/CHRG-112hhrg75859/pdf/CHRG-112hhrg75859.pdf